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LIVEPERSON INC (LPSN)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 revenue of $73.2M and adjusted EBITDA of $8.1M were both above the high end of company guidance; revenue still fell 23.3% YoY on cancellations and downsells .
  • Commercial execution improved: third straight quarter of sequential bookings growth; Q4 total deal value rose 18% QoQ with new-logo deal values more than 2x the Q1–Q3 average .
  • 2025 outlook implies ongoing top-line pressure near term: Q1 revenue guided to $63–$65M and adjusted EBITDA to $(3)M–$(1)M; full-year 2025 revenue $240–$255M and adjusted EBITDA $(14)M–$0, with management expecting sequential revenue growth by year-end as churn normalizes and bookings compound .
  • Key catalysts: expanding voice/AI partnerships (7‑figure Avaya win; Cisco and Amazon Connect integrations in 1H25), rising gen‑AI adoption, and evidence of churn stabilization in 2H25; offsets include large Q4 impairment charges and anticipated 2025 gross margin pressure from cloud migration (GCP) .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Beat on both revenue and adjusted EBITDA vs guidance; management cited favorable deal timing and cost reductions as drivers .
  • Commercial momentum: 39 total Q4 deals (9 new logos), total deal value +18% QoQ; regulated industries represented ~80% of bookings; ARPC rose to $625k (TTM) .
  • Product/partner traction: 7‑figure Avaya deal closed; plans to add Cisco and Amazon Connect; generative AI adoption rose sequentially (+17% customers; +37% conversations) .
    • “We are seeing increasing demand for AI agents and AI orchestration… and growing interest from partners… three consecutive quarters of sequential bookings growth” — CFO/COO John Collins .

What Went Wrong

  • Revenue down 23.3% YoY in Q4 on customer cancellations and downsells; professional services also declined YoY .
  • GAAP net loss deepened to $112.1M in Q4, driven by $56.9M goodwill impairment and $36.3M impairment of intangibles/other assets .
  • 2025 outlook points to continued sequential revenue declines through most of the year with elevated attrition in 1H25; gross margin to face pressure from cloud migration costs (GCP) .

Financial Results

Headline P&L vs prior quarters

MetricQ2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
Revenue ($M)$79.9 $74.2 $73.2
GAAP Net Income (Loss) ($M)$41.8 $(28.3) $(112.1)
GAAP Diluted EPS ($)$0.47 $(0.32) $(1.27)
Adjusted EBITDA ($M)$8.2 $7.3 $8.1

Notes:

  • Q2 GAAP net income included a $73.1M gain on debt extinguishment, inflating GAAP profit that quarter .

Disaggregated revenue

Revenue Mix ($M)Q2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
Hosted services$67.316 $62.655 $60.216
Professional services$12.559 $11.589 $12.990
Total$79.875 $74.244 $73.206

KPIs and operating metrics

KPIQ2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
Deals signed (#)37 44 39
New logos (#)9 9 9
ARPC (TTM)~$630k ~$630k ~$625k
Recurring revenue (% total)~92% ~93% 94%
Net revenue retention (NRR)83% 79% 82%
RPO ($M)$283 $256 $232
Cash & equivalents ($M)$146.0 $142.1 $183.2

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent/ActualChange
Revenue ($M)Q4 2024$65.7–$70.7 $73.2 Above high end
Adjusted EBITDA ($M)Q4 2024$2.1–$7.1 $8.1 Above high end
Revenue ($M)Q1 2025N/A$63–$65 New
Adjusted EBITDA ($M)Q1 2025N/A$(3)–$(1) New
Revenue ($M)FY 2025N/A$240–$255 New
Adjusted EBITDA ($M)FY 2025N/A$(14)–$0 New
Recurring revenue (% of total)Q1 2025N/A94% New
Recurring revenue (% of total)FY 2025N/A93% New

Context: Management flagged ~$3M of favorable Q4 deal timing that will not recur in Q1, explaining part of the sequential revenue step-down; even excluding that, Q1 sequential decline would be ~$6M due to prior cancellations .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 2024, Q3 2024)Current Period (Q4 2024)Trend
Generative AI adoptionQ2: 70+ paying gen‑AI customers; 6M gen‑AI conversations (+165% QoQ) . Q3: clients using gen‑AI +14% QoQ; gen‑AI conversations +40% QoQ .Customers using gen‑AI +17% QoQ; gen‑AI conversations +37% QoQ; cited large enterprise deployments and measurable outcomes .Accelerating usage across base.
Voice integrations/partnersQ2: Avaya pipeline; unified omnichannel workspace targeted GA by end Q3 . Q3: unified workspace launched; Avaya wins; plan Cisco/Amazon Connect next .Closed 7‑figure Avaya deal; pipeline building; Cisco and Amazon Connect integrations in 1H25 .Building momentum; expanding TAM.
Bookings/retentionQ2: deal value +58% QoQ; NRR 83% . Q3: total deals +19% QoQ; NRR 79%; bookings tracking double digits .Third straight QoQ bookings increase (+18% total deal value); NRR 82%; regulated industries ~80% of bookings .Sequential improvement; still lapping churn.
Capital structureQ2: Lynrock Lake transaction improved maturities/liquidity . Q3: no new steps disclosed.No update beyond prior strategy; developments expected through 2025; not expecting positive FCF in 2025 .Focus on execution; balance growth vs leverage.
Gross margin/costsGross margin benefited from reduced consultants/labor; expect 2025 pressure from GCP migration costs .Near-term GM headwind from cloud costs.

Management Commentary

  • “2024 was a transformative year… three consecutive quarters of bookings increases, strong adoption of our Generative AI features and the launch of our voice and digital strategy.” — CEO John Sabino .
  • “We are seeing increasing demand for AI agents and AI orchestration… traction… in regulated industries, and growing interest from partners… we expect to see continued improvement in the business in 2025.” — CFO/COO John Collins .
  • “In Q4, we saw a 17% sequential increase in the number of customers leveraging our generative AI and a 37% sequential increase in conversations using our gen AI suite.” — CEO John Sabino .
  • “On the Avaya partnership, we are going in the right direction. We've closed over a 7‑figure deal… agreed target accounts… and helped Avaya retain customers.” — CEO John Sabino .
  • “We expect revenue to decline through most of the year before reaching an inflection point for sequential growth by the end of the year.” — CFO/COO John Collins .

Q&A Highlights

  • Partner attach: Management targeting ~35% partner‑led bookings in 2025; this would be more than 2x current levels .
  • Avaya/Cisco/Amazon Connect: 7‑figure Avaya deal closed; pipeline progressing; Cisco and Amazon Connect integrations planned to extend reach to ~65% of voice TAM .
  • Profitability vs growth: No net increase in S&M spend vs 2024; company reallocated cost reductions to preserve S&M capacity to drive bookings .
  • Gross margin: Q4 expansion aided by fewer consultants and lower labor in Gainshare; 2025 GM to face pressure from cloud migration (GCP) .
  • Churn/renewals: Legacy renewal cycle largely completes by 1H25; majority of signaled customer losses concentrated in Q1; retention expected to normalize thereafter .
  • Product fit: Customers can avoid full CCaaS/CRM overhauls; LivePerson layers best‑in‑class digital and AI capabilities over existing stacks .

Estimates Context

  • We attempted to retrieve Wall Street consensus (S&P Global) for Q4 2024 and forward periods; data was unavailable due to provider rate limits at the time of request. As a result, we cannot present vs‑consensus comparisons in this report. Company results were above the high end of internal guidance on revenue and adjusted EBITDA for Q4 .

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Quality beat vs guidance with sequential commercial improvement, but headline revenue remains under pressure from prior churn; watch bookings growth sustainability and NRR trajectory through 1H25 .
  • Large non‑cash impairments drove a sizable GAAP loss; non‑GAAP adjusted EBITDA performance indicates underlying cost discipline and operating progress .
  • Voice strategy is gaining traction (Avaya win; Cisco/Amazon Connect next), expanding access to on‑prem and cloud voice ecosystems without requiring disruptive CCaaS swaps — a differentiator in enterprise accounts .
  • Generative AI adoption continues to scale across the base with measurable operational and revenue outcomes; provides a multi‑year upsell and efficiency lever .
  • 2025 guide is conservative on profitability (no positive FCF expected) to prioritize bookings growth and platform investments — key for medium‑term ARR inflection by 2H25/YE25 .
  • Near‑term risks: elevated attrition in Q1, gross margin headwinds from GCP migration, and macro/competitive dynamics in contact center tech .
  • Trading setup: stock likely sensitive to evidence of bookings acceleration, partner attach toward ~35%, and confirmation of churn normalization by mid‑year; any upside to Q1 guide (given $3M Q4 deal‑timing pull‑forward) would be a positive surprise .

Appendix: Additional Financial Details (Q4 2024)

  • Disaggregated revenue: hosted services $60.216M; professional services $12.990M .
  • Cash and equivalents: $183.2M at 12/31/24 .
  • Non‑GAAP reconciliations: Adjusted operating income of $1.0M; Adjusted EBITDA of $8.1M with detailed exclusions (taxes, litigation/consulting, restructuring, amortization, impairments, SBC, leadership transition, financing items, etc.) .
  • Selected balance sheet items: Total liabilities $675.1M; stockholders’ equity $(67.3)M .